Just a reminder that it's now 10am in Melbourne, and at some point duing the next hour Wide World of Sports on Channel 9 will be doing a feature on our male and female gymnasts training in Canberra.
The episode opening featured a teaser - we saw Josh vaulting, Georgia Rose leaping, and they said they will catch up with Lauren.
So stay tuned!
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Tim Sheridan is in Canberra.
Peggy says there are 20 seniors confirmed for nationals which will be whittled to 10-12 for the Olympic training squad.
Girls in pink and black training leos. General training footage, nothing too eye-opening.
We see Lauren with a shoulder tape on.
Maryanne interviewed briefly (they flashed up a photo of her bad ankle) and showed her training a tkatchev to pak on bars.
Ash and GRB name-checked (lovely sissone on floor from Georgia)
Larrissa shown training floor, Em briefly on bars. "When I'm performing... I try not to let the nerves get to me. I do what I can do."
Josh and Tom shown training, Josh :"Were good mates... we empathise with eachother and motivate eachother."
It was a very quick piece with extremely short soundbites from a few of the gymnasts; they showed footage of Lauren's 2010 world floor routine and the men's team on the Delhi 2010 gold medal podium.
ETA: The WWOS website has put up video of the feature.
Peggy says in the video that at the moment there are 20 gymnasts registered to trial in May...who can we cross off?
ReplyDeleteMitchell
Simpson
Little
Chung
Budack
Joura
Sims
Miller
King Koi
Clarke
Wurth
Donald
Bonora
Brown
Monckton
Brennan
Lorenzin
Wheeler
McGrath
Lowery
Savvidou
Nedov
James
Kittl
Boyd
Kay
We already know that Hingston, Boucher and Sanders will not trial.
My pick is to cross out the following.....
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Joura
King Koi
Clarke
Wurth
Lorenzin
Wheeler
McGrath
Lowrey
Savvidou
Nedov
James
Kittl
Boyd
Kay
Sims
This should leave
Mitchell
Simpson
Little
Chung
Bonora
Brown
Monckton
Brennan
Donald at camp and then
Mitchell
Little
Miller
Monckton
Brown for the team with Brennan as reserve
Miller
We know that tons of those girls intend to trial though. Obviously only 6 of them are out of the running at this stage so it's silly to rule so many out.
ReplyDeleteI am fairly certain that come hell or high water, Brennan will make the team, especially if we see her tsuk 1.5. Monckton offers little, she has been injured again lately, bars don't score well internationally, vault is one of the weakest yurchenko fulls, and floor scored in the 12s at Japan Cup and is iffy in general considering her ankle (note worlds 2011). The only proven event for her is beam.
ReplyDeleteSomeone on Couch gymnast face book mentions that Lauren said that she won't be doing AA in London due to her shoulder, I didn't see the clip, so don't know.
ReplyDeleteIf others upgrade their vault, like Chung DTY and Simpson 1.5 that would threaten AB on the team surely as both have good bars reasonable floor and beam.
How awesome if 4 girls from WAIS made the team!
ReplyDeleteAsh is consistent on three apparatus but with Lauren not competing bars, we need four bar works...and Ash sure isn't one of them
ReplyDeleteHow did Monckton's ankles feature at worlds in 2011?
ReplyDeleteWasn't it Mitchell with ankle issues at worlds?
Monckton competed a good floor routine with a 5.6 start value at Vics 2011 (the highest DV in the country after Lauren) but then by worlds her ankles were so bad she didn't compete floor at all. In other worlds, her health is not reliable enough for her to get on the team on the basis of her floor routine.
ReplyDeleteI certainly wouldn't rule Simms out yet. Her bars is improving well and she is starting to hit some form after coming back from surgery. I really hope she can pull it together in time. She would give the team the oooomph they desperately need.
ReplyDeleteThere is a high chance that the 4 WAIS girls could make the team
ReplyDeleteI don't like this talk that Lauren has no chance of doing bars by London
Have faith Lauren we believe in you!
Peggy said she would whittle it down to 10 - 12 for selection camp and i'm thinking that 12 would be
ReplyDeleteMitchell
Simpson
Little
Chung
Joura
Miller
Donald
Brown
Monckton
Brennan
Lorenzin
Wheeler
Anonymous March 4, 2012 6:35 PM you sadly have it all wrong.
ReplyDeleteMonckton was ready and able to perform floor in Tokyo, without any ankle issues.
She was withdrawn from floor due to a cold.
I think that all four WAIS girls will make the team. Nicki has a DTY the team really needs three good vault scores. Not sure who will be the 5th team member possibly Ash
ReplyDelete2008 WAIS got 3 of 4 on the team against popular opinion. The 4th was jade Martin and she was injured and barely able to trial so you could say they got 3 of 3. I wouldn't be surprised if they did it again. They seem to have a very good program for getting people ready at the right time. I'm not sure the other programs have this focus. It's ALL about the Olympics at WAIS.
ReplyDeleteIt will only be Ash if Lauren can compete bars. Larrissa could make the team with four WAIS girls to compete UB/FX although probably in only in the scenario that Lauren cannot compete bars. A lot can happen between now and the Olympics. We have yet to see Nikki compete her DTY and although good vault scores are needed we cannot forget the other apparatus' as well.
ReplyDeleteIf Nikki has a DTY by FAR the best team will be Brennan, Chung, Mitchell, Little, Miller. Brennan and Chung complement each other perfectly.
ReplyDeleteYou are right about 2008. WAIS had four girls, however J ade was withdrawn prior to Olympic trials due to injury.
ReplyDeleteSunday Telegraph confirmed that Rizzo has retired (though most probably figured this). Page 76.
ReplyDeleteBut Chung has almost no big international comp experience. No worlds, no Scam, just a few little events. I'm not saying that's worthless but there are a lot of other gymnasts out there who have much more of a name for themselves and are known by the international judges a lot better than Chung. I think Peggy choosing Simpson for Scam was a very good thing for her - puts her in the good books and shows that she's on Peggy's radar.
ReplyDeleteAgreed Monckton is probably too chronically injured to make the team which is a shame cos she wants it more than anyone.
Lorenzin too has no hope and I'm iffy about Miller after her meltdown in Canberra a month or two ago. Still, I would like to see her on the team, especially over someone like Sims, or even Little.
Miller over Little?? Okay then
ReplyDeleteI can't see how Miller would get in over Little, however they could easily both in the team as they are completely different gymnast, Little the solid all rounder with the DTY and Larrissa the UB/FX specialist. Larrissa does seem to get better as the year goes on.
ReplyDeleteLarissa's meltdown?? Care to elaborate?
ReplyDeleteOk seeing Georgia's bars on youtube, she is doing stalder full+shap+bail+stalder shoot.
ReplyDeleteI have come up with the perfect codewhoring routine for her adding 1 skill and her D dismount before the games
stalder full+ shap+ free hip full + bail + stalder shoot
toe full + tkatchev
D dismount
The routine at American cup was worth 5.6, this is worth 6.4.
Agreed. Both would work but not Larissa instead of Emily. Emily will possibly be our only AA so I can't see a 5 person team without her in it.
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ReplyDeletegood use of the code. you should send that to wais coaches. uprise free hip hard though
trial one workorder for vic is out if anyone is interested
ReplyDeleteYes please to the workorder.
ReplyDeleteI think the 10-12 will be:
ReplyDeleteMitchell
Simpson
Little
Chung
Sims
Miller
Bonora
Brown
Monckton
Brennan
Lorenzin
Wheeler
And the team will go one of two ways with or without Brennan and it all comes down to Mitchell doing bars. IF she can't do nars AUS can't take Brennan because you NEED four competitors on bars (to be respectable). Little and Mitchell are in 100% everyone else is dependant on Lauren's bars and I think its between Simpson, Brennan, Monckton, Brown and Miller.
If they were thinking Chung for London they would have put her into Pac Rims for some experience and Simpson in SCAM but they chose Simpson for both...
Don't think Lorenzin will be in the 10-12 group. But in this sport we are always surprised!!
ReplyDeleteThere was a trial for PAC rim and it is a 3 person team. I think the team was selected from the trial where GS did very well. SCAM is an AA comp - maybe GS was the highest AA at camp? I remember reading that she won day 2. From the assignments the top performers at camp must have been Little, Mitchell, GS and GRB. Looks like top 3 at camp were Lauren, Emily and GS - based on the assignments. Nikki is well and truly in the mix with the others based on being in the B team at Gymnix.
ReplyDeleteGuys, discussion is great but please be mindful of how your comments can be interpreted.
ReplyDeleteI have already been contacted by a few people close to the national squad who are concerned at some of the language being used to analyse the performances of their friends, nieces and daughters (and please don't retort that "analysing them is the very nature of this sport").
Mez could you perhaps post an example of what comments here are not acceptable? I am a little confused as it all seems fairly reasonable to me.
ReplyDeletea video of Chloe Sims' upgrades on bars via her public facebook
ReplyDeletehttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=3162752640243
As much as I think the photo of Ash Brennan leaping with the flag is beautifully done I find the article that goes with it presumptuous and misleading . It makes it sound to the general public that she has already been selected for London.
ReplyDeleteI guess go easy bandying about terms like "meltdown", and comments like "Monckton is probably too chronically injured to make the team...".
ReplyDeleteIt's only March, not May. I think what we saw with the groups in France and Germany showed promise and are a stepping stone to bigger and better performances. I can't wait for Pacific Rim, regardless of the USA being almost guaranteed to dominate. I'm not being complacent, I'm not being naive, I just don't believe in counting chickens before they're hatched.
http://www.gymnasticsvictoria.org.au/event.asp?ID=2110&format=popup
ReplyDelete- workorder
Pre Cup interview by Gymnastike with Georgia Simpson
ReplyDeleteUpgrades since Test Event ( approx 6 weeks ago)
Floor - full in, front salto through to double tuck
Vault- Yurchencko Full
Beam- Yang Bo , side aerial
Bars- stalder to connection shap
.......I 'm really just here for the big experience.
And what an experience she has had!
Anon, March 5th 8:41pm
ReplyDelete'codewhoring' lol
Great suggestion too!
i cant see Chloe's vid...can anyone please list the skills she is doing?
ReplyDeleteThe video is only of part of her high bar. It goes...
ReplyDeletelong kip - straddle cast
Stalder to H/S
Stalder half (loose)
Clear pike full (VERY late turn)
So we have
A+A+C+C+E
so adding in that combo to her old routine Chloe will probably have
ReplyDeleteStalder ½ C + Inside stalder 1/1 E
Inside stalder ½ D + Inside endo D + Jaeger D (0.2)
Bail D +stalder shoot C (0.1)
Stalder 1/1 D + dismount D (0.1)
I get 6.1 for this routine but I wasn't sure of the value for the inside endo or the CV for the first combo. Can anyone clarify? Larrissa is going to be challenged by Chloe and Georgia S for the bars spot I think.
what about:
ReplyDeleteStalder ½ C + Inside stalder 1/1 E + Bail D +stalder shoot C (0.3)
Inside stalder ½ D + Inside endo D + Jaeger D (0.2)
Stalder 1/1 D + dismount D (0.1)
That gets 6.3 with the same skill set. What is the point of the stalder 1/2 before the inside stalder 1/1? she has enough skills to count without it and it gets no CV.
Hope she can do more than just bars, gets into the National Squad before then and gets a string of International comps behind her to prove herself!
ReplyDeleteHey Zoe, NEVER GIVE UP! And that goes for anyone who is being discounted!
ReplyDeleteYou are ALL amazing, talented, dedicated and focused and no-one here has a crystal ball into the future.
Gym qld senior states are end of next month so looking forward to seeing the qld girls compete then!
ReplyDeleteAnd also watching tom and josh compete as thet are the two guys vying for the one spot and they are both from qld
ReplyDeletefrom where I sat, section 119, front row, Georgia Simpson's injury was more than a disclocation...she had an open wound and it took at least 10 minutes to clean up the blood
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