Monday, September 21, 2009

Pssssst!


If you're watching the Emmys instead of the Brownlow Medal count tonight, Neil Patrick Harris would like to remind you...


...that the Japan Junior Invitational kicks off tomorrow so stay tuned for results! Australia has two MAGs and two WAGs competing, we wish them the best of luck!

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

I read that there is an amazing Japanese WAG junior who did this in training:

vault
double twisting tsukuhara

beam
a layout to 2 feet
flic flic layout full
a triple turn immediate layout stepout
triple twist dismount

floor
a double double
front full connected to rudi
3 1/2 twist
double pike

and this girl I didn't even see at AYOF. They had another girl there that I saw did a layout full onto the beam, and I heard another junior of theirs is already doing a 2.5 yurchenko on vault.

I can't believe the Australian girls have to compete against that, it is crazy.

nade00 said...

Scores:

Emily (9th/13) 13.850 13.150 12.450 13.000 52.450

Emma (11th/13) 13.900 12.200 10.900 13.300 50.300

Komova of Russia won with 15.100 15.450 14.950 14.300 59.800

Mai Murakami is Japan's new amazing junior. She is born 1996. Her scores were 13.950 12.800 13.050 13.950 53.750

Anonymous said...

AA Results:
(http://www.jr-gym.or.jp/compe2009/ko...emel-kojin.pdf via TAAF)

1. VIKTORIYA KOMOVA RUS 15.100 15.450 14.950 14.300 59.800
2. NATSUMI SASADA JPN 14.500 13.850 13.850 13.900 56.100
3. BRILEY CASANOVA USA 14.350 13.800 13.450 13.700 55.300
4. SOPHINA DEJESUS USA 13.850 13.650 13.650 13.800 54.950
5. YOSHINO TANIGUCHI JPN 12.950 13.400 14.100 14.100 54.550
6. RALUCA OANA HAIDU ROU 14.000 13.000 13.100 14.250 54.350
- SEIRA SUZUKI JPN 14.150 12.800 13.500 13.400 53.850
- MAI MURAKAMI JPN 13.950 12.800 13.050 13.950 53.750
7. HARUMI MARIKO FREITAS BRA 13.150 13.200 13.650 13.450 53.450
8. DESIREE BAUMERT GER 13.200 12.950 13.400 12.950 52.500
9. EMILY LITTLE AUS 13.850 13.150 12.450 13.000 52.450
10. DOMINIQUE PEGG CAN 13.250 11.700 13.150 13.550 51.650
11. EMMA COLLISTER AUS 13.900 12.200 10.900 13.300 50.300
12. SUN DONG WEI CHN 9.950 9.800 9.850 12.750 42.350
13. JANAINA BRAZ SILVA BRA 14.400 9.850 - 10.800 35.050

Anonymous said...

Sounds like Emily is back up over Emma - a turn around from Nationals for sure. I'm curious as to what happened and how they performed.

Brinds

solnishko said...

That is an AMAZING AA score for Komova! Gosh, why was she born in 1995?! She could be winning worlds next month...

Mez said...

Apparently Rachel had 2 beam falls and flubbed her double front bars dismount.

I apologise for not having been home this afternoon to post news as it came in.

Mez said...

Emma! EMMA, NOT RACHEL! Sorry, late night brain fart...

Anonymous said...

Hopefully they can keep working hard and can continue to build their d-scores over the next little while. It's looking unlikely that Emily will be a contender for worlds/CWG next year though, if we retain most of the seniors we have now.

Anonymous said...

I would have thought it was early days for ruling out (or in) people for CWG or any other competition. I know you mentioned Emma had some reasons why her scores were below what was expected, does that mean Emily was completely clean? I think it is great that they are at a similar level as it gives them both someone to compete against which can only be good for the standard in the team. Here's hoping it spurs them on in training, over the next few months especially.

Anonymous said...

I think it is too early to rule people out of CWG/worlds contention.

I do understand what anon 1:45 was saying though, Emily needs a lot of improvement is she is going to get on a senior team next year.

Anonymous said...

Yes i agree. But she is capable of making them. The rest is up to her and how much she wants it. I'm pretty sure it is what she is focussed on though. I am also Anon 9:57

Anonymous said...

How has Australia gone at this event in previous years? Where do we sit?

Mez said...

Australia's been to the event before. Monette Russo won the AA in 2003 (videos are at YouTube). Emma Dennis went in 2007, finishing 3rd on floor and in the all-around.

Dasha and Chloe (and Prashanth I think?) went in 2005, Dasha came 8th AA.

Anonymous said...

I guess it will depend also on how Emily and co do overseas next month and if they can improve there.

nade00 said...

At the end of the day it's not how good they are as juniors that matters anyway. Countless athletes are terrific juniors but aren't as good at senior level, and vice versa. We still don't know how it will turn out, but hopefully Emma and Emily will become terrific seniors in future.

I think it is clear though that the main area of work needs to be trying to avoid 'Britt Greeley' situations, where talented athletes don't have sufficient difficulty by the time they reach senior level, and waste 1 or 2 years of their senior career catching up.

While the Aussie girls don't need to be at Komova's level or anything, as our top juniors ideally you would want them scoring around 55.00+ now I think, especially for Emily since she is senior next year.

These other juniors are from a variety of nations, not all powerhouses, but all are top 12 countries, and I think it is a good indicator of where you would want them to be at in the very near future.

At this point in time that the others are a little more advanced in their competition programs so that is definitely a good benchmark to work towards for our girls. I have faith that they will improve a lot over the next year or so.

Anonymous said...

I am really loving the positivity and optimism being shown by commenters on this blog. It can only be of help to these "up and comers".

Anonymous said...

Good to see Nade that you are so knowledgeable about individual athlete's situations and circumstances

nade00 said...

? I don't think I said anything negative or unreasonable.

I'm not pretending to take every tiny detail into account, I'm just noting that this meet was probably a useful guide as to where the girls are at relative to the other juniors. Please explain what is so terrible and offensive about that.

You people make me feel like I am committing a crime by making any comment that you do not fully agree with. I am just a fan who enjoys discussing gymnastics and I do my best not to say anything that is unsubstantiated. By all means, if you have information to the contrary, acknowledge that, but you don''t need to be so rude and condescending.

Anonymous said...

I think it is clear though that the main area of work needs to be trying to avoid 'Britt Greeley' situations, where talented athletes don't have sufficient difficulty by the time they reach senior level, and waste 1 or 2 years of their senior career catching up.
( I was speaking in relation to their athlete being named and singled out. I don't personally know Britt, but I am sure you don't either, so maybe a specific comment on an athlete is not necessary!)

nade00 said...

It's nothing against Britt as an athlete, I'm referring to the way SHE has been disadvantaged by pacing.

Obviously there will have been injuries etc coming into play but Britt is an example of an athlete who is very talented, but has spent a year at senior level probably achieving below she is capable of in part because the system delays the learning of senior level skills.

I think it can only be a good thing if this type of situation can be avoided given how short their careers already are.

Anonymous said...

I'm referring to the way SHE has been disadvantaged by pacing.
( Are you aware of her being paced? Do you know personally her skill plan? )

Anonymous said...

I don't think Nade did anything anything overtly wrong. If anything she praised Britt for being talented. The main criticism is with the coaching/pacing.

From earlier in the year there were reports of Britt training a DTY, a double arabian on floor and tkatchev variants on UB so she obviously means to upgrade in time.

There is a problem with our girls taking a bit too long to learn the bigger skills. Under the new code you can't get by if you're still counting a heap C skills in your routines.

Australain gymnastics was lucky that in 2006 Dasha, Hollie and Chloe all went senior with reasonable A scores on all events, but then you have cases like Shona who didn't start her senior career as the most difficult and yet became our second best AAer. So I guess it's best to leave the pacing to those who deal with the girls on a more intimate basis.

Anonymous said...

A a parent of a gymnast, I have enjoyed logging going on and reading the informative information this blog provides. I must say though, lately there have been too many anonymous bloggers trying to bring down the good that is being done.
I am tired of logging on and reading bad mouthed, ill tempered bloggers comments. In my opinion "if you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing". Informative factual information is not always fairy floss and roses.
Nade and Mez please do not be disheartened by a few (or maybe even one) bad apples.
And just for everyone's information, in my club there is not one gymnast that does not go on this site religiously and read the comments. So please think about that before you post your next bad mouthing, negative comment.

Anonymous said...

you guys need to get your facts right. emma had 3 falls, two on beam and one on bars. beam falls were her side aerial and double back dismount. her bars fall was her tcatchev.

Anonymous said...

Well hey there Anon. Mez has an email address, maybe you could have sent a report to her if you had all the facts. It is possible however that she did have trouble with the dismount also.

Mez said...

Easy, tiger!

I haven't seen any video footage from Japan, nor any full competition reports so I didn't know the exact details of routines or falls. I said "apparently" because I'd asked a Waverley parent on Tuesday if they'd heard about the girls' results and what they told me (posted here as reported) was the little they'd heard from the WGC coaches getting phone calls/emails from Japan.

PS- Earlier Anon, thanks for the kind words. Hope the gymnasts like what they are reading (except for the squabbles of course).

Anonymous said...

Have there been any videos posted yet?

Anonymous said...

her bars dismount isn't a double front. it is a full out